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	<title>Comments on: Zara &amp; Troy in Happy Endings</title>
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	<description>Your independent guide to the Melbourne International Comedy Festival</description>
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		<title>By: alanabanana</title>
		<link>http://www.anewleaf.com.au/2009/04/07/zara-troy-in-happy-endings/comment-page-1/#comment-77426</link>
		<dc:creator>alanabanana</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Apr 2009 14:54:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I loathed this show. I don&#039;t even agree that they were talented singers, I just thought it was something they should have kept in their living room for friends and family.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I loathed this show. I don&#8217;t even agree that they were talented singers, I just thought it was something they should have kept in their living room for friends and family.</p>
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		<title>By: Alexia</title>
		<link>http://www.anewleaf.com.au/2009/04/07/zara-troy-in-happy-endings/comment-page-1/#comment-76273</link>
		<dc:creator>Alexia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Apr 2009 01:39:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I thought this wasn&#039;t a bad review and I would&#039;ve enjoyed seeing the show. 

But after reading this diatribe it&#039;s clear that the writers don&#039;t know how to take their reviews with good humour, so how can I be sure they&#039;ll bring good humour to their audiences?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I thought this wasn&#8217;t a bad review and I would&#8217;ve enjoyed seeing the show. </p>
<p>But after reading this diatribe it&#8217;s clear that the writers don&#8217;t know how to take their reviews with good humour, so how can I be sure they&#8217;ll bring good humour to their audiences?</p>
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		<title>By: bdavies</title>
		<link>http://www.anewleaf.com.au/2009/04/07/zara-troy-in-happy-endings/comment-page-1/#comment-76133</link>
		<dc:creator>bdavies</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Apr 2009 12:40:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I saw this show and I wish I&#039;d read the review before I went! Sorry guys, I just didn&#039;t really think it was that funny. It needed more work.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I saw this show and I wish I&#8217;d read the review before I went! Sorry guys, I just didn&#8217;t really think it was that funny. It needed more work.</p>
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		<title>By: ellena</title>
		<link>http://www.anewleaf.com.au/2009/04/07/zara-troy-in-happy-endings/comment-page-1/#comment-75562</link>
		<dc:creator>ellena</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Apr 2009 14:02:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I can&#039;t believe you pretended to be an audience member! That&#039;s so pathetic it&#039;s not funny.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I can&#8217;t believe you pretended to be an audience member! That&#8217;s so pathetic it&#8217;s not funny.</p>
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		<title>By: Emily</title>
		<link>http://www.anewleaf.com.au/2009/04/07/zara-troy-in-happy-endings/comment-page-1/#comment-74241</link>
		<dc:creator>Emily</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Apr 2009 07:57:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Woah. Jesus people. Chill out - it&#039;s a review.
Take your criticism with dignity. Likewise to the editor, stop being so precious.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Woah. Jesus people. Chill out &#8211; it&#8217;s a review.<br />
Take your criticism with dignity. Likewise to the editor, stop being so precious.</p>
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		<title>By: Lefa Singleton Norton</title>
		<link>http://www.anewleaf.com.au/2009/04/07/zara-troy-in-happy-endings/comment-page-1/#comment-74209</link>
		<dc:creator>Lefa Singleton Norton</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Apr 2009 05:51:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Troy,

Your email address was not published, and we have acted completely in accordance with our privacy policy.  You, on the other hand, have abused our comments policy by posting misleading commentary.

If, in fact, it was your brother (with no email address... how interesting) posting he still neglected to mention this fact.  As previously stated, we are happy to publish comments from audiences, performers, family members or whomever.  All we ask is that you are honest about your opinion and don&#039;t mislead readers.  Which, by not disclosing your/his bias, your brother did.  You will find other reviews also have comments which disagree with the review.  We are happy to publish these.

I didn&#039;t acuse you of &quot;slamming&quot;, only mentioned that the reviewer did the decency of offering considered opinion rather than a rant or ill-conceived review.  I accused the comment of snark, by which I was referring to the comment &quot;Comedy is subjective (and youâ€™re obviously a fan of the contrived â€œedginessâ€ of international acts!)&quot;.  Zilla clearly states in her review that she may not be the target audience for the show, and that other audience members appeared to relate to the material.  That, for the record, is her openly and responsibly stating that comedy is indeed subjective, and some people enjoyed it.  To attempt to palm off her reasonable criticism by inferring she must just be into &#039;mainstream&#039; international comedy is snark in its silliest form.

&#039;Tad&#039; almost entirely misses the point of Zilla&#039;s review, including the fact that she doesn&#039;t criticise the show&#039;s length, but in fact the early signposting of its end, leading to an audience expecting a close to the show but instead sitting on the edge of their seats for another ten minutes.

Happy to take your accusation of being &quot;snarky&quot;, Troy.  In the face of such a blatant attempt by a show to undermine a reviewer in a totally cowardly fashion, as an editor I do become irritated.  You&#039;ve now blown a rather humdrum review into a conversation about you (or your family) attempting to pass themselves off as a run-of-the-mill audience member who disagrees with a review.  We&#039;ve had performers, friends, family members or other comics comment on the site before disagreeing with reviews, and we welcome a respectful discourse.  But only if all parties are as honest as each other.  The very fact that we encourage comments is testament to our belief that reviews are subjective, and that discussion of different ideas and opinions are often as enlightening as the review itself.

Your reaction to your review is enlightening, indeed.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Troy,</p>
<p>Your email address was not published, and we have acted completely in accordance with our privacy policy.  You, on the other hand, have abused our comments policy by posting misleading commentary.</p>
<p>If, in fact, it was your brother (with no email address&#8230; how interesting) posting he still neglected to mention this fact.  As previously stated, we are happy to publish comments from audiences, performers, family members or whomever.  All we ask is that you are honest about your opinion and don&#8217;t mislead readers.  Which, by not disclosing your/his bias, your brother did.  You will find other reviews also have comments which disagree with the review.  We are happy to publish these.</p>
<p>I didn&#8217;t acuse you of &#8220;slamming&#8221;, only mentioned that the reviewer did the decency of offering considered opinion rather than a rant or ill-conceived review.  I accused the comment of snark, by which I was referring to the comment &#8220;Comedy is subjective (and youâ€™re obviously a fan of the contrived â€œedginessâ€ of international acts!)&#8221;.  Zilla clearly states in her review that she may not be the target audience for the show, and that other audience members appeared to relate to the material.  That, for the record, is her openly and responsibly stating that comedy is indeed subjective, and some people enjoyed it.  To attempt to palm off her reasonable criticism by inferring she must just be into &#8216;mainstream&#8217; international comedy is snark in its silliest form.</p>
<p>&#8216;Tad&#8217; almost entirely misses the point of Zilla&#8217;s review, including the fact that she doesn&#8217;t criticise the show&#8217;s length, but in fact the early signposting of its end, leading to an audience expecting a close to the show but instead sitting on the edge of their seats for another ten minutes.</p>
<p>Happy to take your accusation of being &#8220;snarky&#8221;, Troy.  In the face of such a blatant attempt by a show to undermine a reviewer in a totally cowardly fashion, as an editor I do become irritated.  You&#8217;ve now blown a rather humdrum review into a conversation about you (or your family) attempting to pass themselves off as a run-of-the-mill audience member who disagrees with a review.  We&#8217;ve had performers, friends, family members or other comics comment on the site before disagreeing with reviews, and we welcome a respectful discourse.  But only if all parties are as honest as each other.  The very fact that we encourage comments is testament to our belief that reviews are subjective, and that discussion of different ideas and opinions are often as enlightening as the review itself.</p>
<p>Your reaction to your review is enlightening, indeed.</p>
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		<title>By: Troy Swindells-Grose</title>
		<link>http://www.anewleaf.com.au/2009/04/07/zara-troy-in-happy-endings/comment-page-1/#comment-74177</link>
		<dc:creator>Troy Swindells-Grose</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Apr 2009 03:28:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks Lefa

Appreciate that - actually it was a my brother (with no email) - hence my personal email address and not 
the above work one... but don&#039;t see much &quot;slamming&quot; there?  Also, thanks for living up to &quot;Mail 
(will not be published)&quot; - how&#039;s that Privacy Policy looking?  Ours, for reference is;  
http://www.humouraustralia.com.au/privacy.htm

&quot;Snarky&quot;... hmmm someone definitely is!

:)

Troy</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks Lefa</p>
<p>Appreciate that &#8211; actually it was a my brother (with no email) &#8211; hence my personal email address and not<br />
the above work one&#8230; but don&#8217;t see much &#8220;slamming&#8221; there?  Also, thanks for living up to &#8220;Mail<br />
(will not be published)&#8221; &#8211; how&#8217;s that Privacy Policy looking?  Ours, for reference is;<br />
<a href="http://www.humouraustralia.com.au/privacy.htm" rel="nofollow">http://www.humouraustralia.com.au/privacy.htm</a></p>
<p>&#8220;Snarky&#8221;&#8230; hmmm someone definitely is!</p>
<p> <img src='http://www.anewleaf.com.au/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Troy</p>
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		<title>By: Lefa Singleton Norton</title>
		<link>http://www.anewleaf.com.au/2009/04/07/zara-troy-in-happy-endings/comment-page-1/#comment-74156</link>
		<dc:creator>Lefa Singleton Norton</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Apr 2009 02:07:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Tad: perhaps you ought to think twice about pretending to be an audience member when you leave comments on your review, Troy. We believe strongly in allowing audience members (or performers) to put their two cents worth forward, but deliberately misleading readers is pretty low.

The reviewer has put forward valid criticism, attempted to be balanced in reporting where other audience members appeared to be enjoying the material and has backed up all of her opinions.  The least you could do is have the decency to respond, if you choose to do so, as yourself.  As you rightly point out, comedy is subjective, and the author has clearly offered a perfect example of stating her position without slamming you.  You could have offered the same decency rather than the snarky aside.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tad: perhaps you ought to think twice about pretending to be an audience member when you leave comments on your review, Troy. We believe strongly in allowing audience members (or performers) to put their two cents worth forward, but deliberately misleading readers is pretty low.</p>
<p>The reviewer has put forward valid criticism, attempted to be balanced in reporting where other audience members appeared to be enjoying the material and has backed up all of her opinions.  The least you could do is have the decency to respond, if you choose to do so, as yourself.  As you rightly point out, comedy is subjective, and the author has clearly offered a perfect example of stating her position without slamming you.  You could have offered the same decency rather than the snarky aside.</p>
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		<title>By: katrina</title>
		<link>http://www.anewleaf.com.au/2009/04/07/zara-troy-in-happy-endings/comment-page-1/#comment-74133</link>
		<dc:creator>katrina</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Apr 2009 00:27:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I thought the show was bloody hilarious! Such fantastic comedic timing and loved the dude on the keyboards too. My friends and I were in hysterics many times throughout the show. Loved the energy of the songs and felt Zara was particularly able to engage well with the audience. Very quick and witty. Such a unique show and pure entertainment for the whole hour.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I thought the show was bloody hilarious! Such fantastic comedic timing and loved the dude on the keyboards too. My friends and I were in hysterics many times throughout the show. Loved the energy of the songs and felt Zara was particularly able to engage well with the audience. Very quick and witty. Such a unique show and pure entertainment for the whole hour.</p>
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		<title>By: Tad</title>
		<link>http://www.anewleaf.com.au/2009/04/07/zara-troy-in-happy-endings/comment-page-1/#comment-73999</link>
		<dc:creator>Tad</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Apr 2009 12:23:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Couldn&#039;t disagree more with the review... I apparently saw it with a bigger crowd...
wide age group too and they all enjoyed it!  All those original songs (some of the best comedy music at the fest for me!) and barely a  mention??   Comedy is subjective... (and you&#039;re obviously a fan of the contrived &quot;edginess&quot; of international acts!)... sorry - this was a great show!  And weird comment about the length??
It&#039;s clearly advertised as an hour and was bang on the night we saw it...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Couldn&#8217;t disagree more with the review&#8230; I apparently saw it with a bigger crowd&#8230;<br />
wide age group too and they all enjoyed it!  All those original songs (some of the best comedy music at the fest for me!) and barely a  mention??   Comedy is subjective&#8230; (and you&#8217;re obviously a fan of the contrived &#8220;edginess&#8221; of international acts!)&#8230; sorry &#8211; this was a great show!  And weird comment about the length??<br />
It&#8217;s clearly advertised as an hour and was bang on the night we saw it&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Xena</title>
		<link>http://www.anewleaf.com.au/2009/04/07/zara-troy-in-happy-endings/comment-page-1/#comment-73912</link>
		<dc:creator>Xena</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Apr 2009 05:57:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Loved the show - thought it show-cased a very talented pair - loved the mix of jokes and particularly clever songs. I&#039;ve seen a lot of comedy, esp at the Festival, and felt this was one of the big chuckles...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Loved the show &#8211; thought it show-cased a very talented pair &#8211; loved the mix of jokes and particularly clever songs. I&#8217;ve seen a lot of comedy, esp at the Festival, and felt this was one of the big chuckles&#8230;</p>
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